Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Post your quires regarding lighting needs in planted aquariums.
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby manojvaz » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:08 am

sushant wrote:
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sushant wrote:Normal aluminium tape or foil will work as a diffuser rather than a reflector. Instead using white paint will give you better results.

?? i didnt quit get the logic, how come plain aluminium foil act as s diffuser and not work better than white paint. Please ellborate

this is due to the irregular surface of the unfinished sheet. the reflector need to have a very smooth and even surface which is not the case with the sheet we are talking about. here is a reference, probably this will clear your doubts http://www.anomet.com/reflective_aluminum.html
here is another link http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-beginners/1168583-what-reflective-materials-can-i-use-my-grow-room-guide.html
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Hi Sushant, are we as members allowed to point to articles on other forums? To my knowledge we are not to provide references to discussions on other forums. I was told this by a member of a different forum in which i am a member too.



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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby sushant » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:55 am

manojvaz wrote:
sushant wrote:
syed.ali wrote:
sushant wrote:Normal aluminium tape or foil will work as a diffuser rather than a reflector. Instead using white paint will give you better results.

?? i didnt quit get the logic, how come plain aluminium foil act as s diffuser and not work better than white paint. Please ellborate

this is due to the irregular surface of the unfinished sheet. the reflector need to have a very smooth and even surface which is not the case with the sheet we are talking about. here is a reference, probably this will clear your doubts http://www.anomet.com/reflective_aluminum.html
here is another link http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-beginners/1168583-what-reflective-materials-can-i-use-my-grow-room-guide.html
just found on random search 666



Hi Sushant, are we as members allowed to point to articles on other forums? To my knowledge we are not to provide references to discussions on other forums. I was told this by a member of a different forum in which i am a member too.


the aim of this forum is knowledge sharing and overall improvement of this hobby, so if the references are relevant then the links can surely be used. however direct copying of someone's idea or post on other forums(if they don't belong to you) is not allowed.
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby SCORPIO » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:18 am

Manojvij, we are not allergic to any fish/aquarium forum. Our motive is only to improve the hobby. You can post links but not the copied data as Sushant told.
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby sunny » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:51 pm

Awsum ! But wat about d height of tank ?
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby Abhi » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:43 pm

manojvaz wrote:Hey there, I am a new bee to this forum. I just went through the post put up and it rang a bell. I was like surg . This is what I got to know reading various articles on lighting requirement for planted tank.

Plants require red and blue light of the visible spectrum for photosynthesis. They reflect most other lights. Red light is of shorter wavelenght and hence is lost. Blue light are of higher wavelength and penetrate deeper into the water. The watts per gallon is a myth. Now then what lighting would you want to choose for? There are range of lightings from CFLs to LEDs to the old T8, T12, MH, HPS etc. One common thing to all these is that they all have a kelvin rating. The temperature of light color is measured in kelvin. The CFL's color temperature is 6500K, which is close to the color of Sun's light on a very clear mid noon. A minimum of 6500K is good. The watt rating on bulb is a measure of the energy it consumes and higher watt means more bright light. But remember, a 45 watt spiral/tubular CFL wouldn't give any more than 6500K and similarly a 5W spiral/tubular wouldn't give any higher than 6500K. I checked all the CFLs in the market and they all have 6500K. From 5W to 45W. A higher Kelvin would be required in case the depth of the tank is more than 20 inches. My tank has slot for two bulbs, one at left and one at right. I put a 20W spiral CFL in one slot and boy the water heated up quickly(the other slot was empty). I have a 22*9*13 inch tank. Imagine if I had put another 20W. For instance, If i were to have two 20W or any watt rating CFLs for that matter (they all are of the same kelvin rating 6500K mind you), it wouldn't be 13000K. I returned the 20W CFL and am to put up two 5W tubular CFL. The difference between tubular and spiral is in the light intensity measured in lumens. During winters we would alway require a heater and defenitely not rely on the energy from the bulb. Am not sure if you guys are doing well with bulbs of 20W. Isn't that raising the water temperature? We may have to keep the water temperature at the optimum for the fishes we have as each's requirement is different.

You may have stumbled across the terms PAR and PUR. They are Photosynthetically Active/Used Radiation respectively. These only apply to lighting stats in aquarium. We would not be able to find this on any bulb. PAR is a measure of the spectral length of the visible light ranging from 400nm to 700nm, nm is nanometer. PUR is the useful light of that spectrum that plants require which is 440nm to 490nm. Blue light falls within this.

I welcome all/any correction on this. Thank you!

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Heat is the reason most people prefer to stay away from CFLs or MH etc. Best option as of now I have found are T5s better efficiency too in terms of light being produced. LEDs are a good option but the cheap ones have not given me any good result while expensive like CREE well am yet to burn a hole that big :roll
During Winters I have used a 150 watt MH with excellent plant growth, but in our Northern summers it would boil the water easily.
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby SCORPIO » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:19 pm

Abhi wrote:Heat is the reason most people prefer to stay away from CFLs or MH etc. Best option as of now I have found are T5s better efficiency too in terms of light being produced. LEDs are a good option but the cheap ones have not given me any good result while expensive like CREE well am yet to burn a hole that big
During Winters I have used a 150 watt MH with excellent plant growth, but in our Northern summers it would boil the water easily.


:1 After using many types of lighting equipments, I also prefer T5s.
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby manojvaz » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:00 am

sunny wrote:Awsum ! But wat about d height of tank ?


Sunny, 6500K should do well until 20 inch. I haven't experimented though. Beyond that, K should be higher for penetration. T5 or T8 or T12 offer the same 6500K. Yes, as said by Abhi and Rajiv T5 is energy efficient consuming lesser energy over T8 or T12. 5, 8 and 12 represent the diameter of the tube.T5 has roughly 3/4 of an inch, T8 has approx 1 inch diameter and T12 1.5 inch. Generally the more narrow the lamp, the more efficient it will be consuming lesser energy. Hope this helps

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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby Bond_007 » Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:10 pm

@manojvaz,I dont think K plays any role in peneteration.Lumen does.K is merely the colour temperature of bulb,higher k means blue colour increases and low k means warm colour.
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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby ayksyk » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:03 am

One thing I read about lights is how much can the light penetrate the water and is it abundant enough.
You can check if someone has par meter and you can check the calculations.

Found ADA guys carrying at our local shop where they did set a Planted Tank

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Re: Lighting in Planted Aquariums.

Unread postby Naufil » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:45 pm

are home use tubelights the same as t12?
Is a 40 watt home use tubelight good enough for a 2.5 feet tank?